Hi folks,

Anyone heard anything new from BT whilst in Miami? I’ve heard a ton of stuff on the grapevine and everyone seems to be talking about certain artists but I have not heard anyone mention BT. Bueller? Bueller?

Blue

I heard him as one of the commentators on Area 33 on Sirius Satelite Radio having a round table for a bit.  They were talking about the general line up and mentioned that he was performing a 15 year retrospective set, never caught it though.

No.  It looks like he only did the one show at Ultra and it was all previously released stuff.  Atleast it looked like an interesting live show and not the same old laptop sets we had been seeing for the past few years.

No news regards any new stuff then?
Hmmm… Not exactly being spoiled of late are we?
Still, moving on, theres lots of new stuff out there at the moment to keep us happy… I do wonder if this is how its going to be from this point in time for new BT stuff. I think he needs to get his ass in the studio and fall in love with dance music again, and give us an album that sounds like he’s been having a good time. Maybe that was ESCM and maybe that was 1997.

nah I actually don’t expect anything new this year, except for film scores. It seems that each day that passes he falls farther away from relativity, at least where it matter in his profession.

Miami setlist was something like this - NGCBD, Knowledge of Self, Somnambulist, Dreaming, Flaming June, Break My Fall, Love Comes Again, Calling Your Name… i walked away at this point because I can’t stand Jans vocals on Calling Your Name and I wanted to catch Justice DJ. I missed NGCBD and KOS, and the mics kept going out during Somnam and Dreaming. But at least it wasn’t like the recent laptop shows (i say recent because I used to like them and have seen good ones).

Interesting that it was noted on BTM that Kirsty is no longer speaking with BT.

BT fell out of favor with kirsty? is there a link to an interview regarding this matter? what could have happened?

Hubris, maybe…

Is BT still a recording artist?  I mean that as a serious question.  I haven’t heard shit from anywhere in a long time that would suggest he’s even focused on putting out new material.  He seems to have fallen into the electronic music equivalent of the County Fair circuit complete with “retrospective” headline.  I’m not a fan of his soundtrack stuff although I thought Monster was a impressive piece of work.  His latest release, TBU, sounded like sound track reject material to me. 

I truly hope the guy figures out what he wants and my selfish hope is that he wants to make progressive electronic dance music again.  I guess time will tell but if history is the best predictor of the future, I don’t see his career arc going that direction.  RIP the heart that brought us IMA and ESCM.  We hardly knew ya.

Oh… wait a minute…

Fuck BT....

Ok yeah..

It’s over.

At least the people here are progressing regardless.

No new anything for the forseeable future.  It happens to the best of em.  There’s always the Nickelodeon channel on Sirius.

BT’s creativity is invested in drama these days, music is secondary.

Well, glad I asked the question, and Im glad to see the post going in a direction that I have been feeling for ages… is the idea of dance music secondary to the man’s quest for happiness and career? I used to get flamed a lot for speaking up back in the day, but fuck it, stuff has to be said. Since the ET marketing cock-up (as I see it) where you take a progressive dance music producer and stick him in a white suit and bleach his hair and make him look oh-so-LA the mans music has gone down hill fast. Fact. TBU was indeed an interesting collection of music and an extension of BT’s more cinemativ moments, being down to the fact that he primarily has become a soundtrack composer. Now fair play, if thats the direction he wished to persue then power to him. Fact is even that has become quiet. Apart from Monster (a great OST), what have we had to listen to of any content? Now all of this is simply frustration. He could bail out of the music industry for good and become an IT consultant if it makes him happy, and we will always have ESCM to give us a reminder of good days and of an artist that not only was inspiring, but did it (it seemed) in an honest and humble style. His music, pure and simple. No white suits. No LA style and a dash of Hollywood. No sell out. Just music.

There are so many good artists out there these days that being a BT fan is something of the past. We have NO new stuff to listen to or comment on or get inspired about. Everyone, and I mean everyone that records electronic music can harness some presets for a stutter-edit, the very thing that years ago (10 or more?) was a pioneering progressive extension of someone who was doing what they loved. You have to be encompassed in this scene to progress, because it is so progressive, but don’t be fooled thinking that other artists aren’t doing the same, or more. They are. Right now it is more exciting and inspiring to listen to other artists, as they are being inspired themselves by the people around them. Go to Hybridized and listen to a Jody Wisternoff set and you’ll see (or hear) what I mean. Its fresh, its new… theres a new sound and its not stuck in the past playing the same old tunes, living on ether’s of what once was. You can’t do that and be an electronic artist. Its about progression and passion. Something I have been waiting a long time for from the BT camp.

Blue

There is some information floating around that he worked on the soundtrack for Battle in Seattle.  I think there is some small random stuff that has been released that he is doing, as well as some people claim that he has dropped his new tracks at recent laptop shows, but even then those shows were 6-8 months ago…

I wouldn’t be surprised to see him doing a lot more movies and producing as opposed to releasing his own work.  The BT fan sites are all pretty dry for new content… His official site is more of a place for a small group of people to socialize as opposed to talking about his music, but the same thing would happen to this site in between releases.  It just gets hard to keep a fan site going when there is absolutely no information about new releases aside for a few people telling people that they have heard it and it is awesome.  Music isn’t something you should read about, it is something you should hear and experience.

BlueAzure - 14 April 2008 05:08 AM

Since the ET marketing cock-up (as I see it) where you take a progressive dance music producer and stick him in a white suit and bleach his hair and make him look oh-so-LA the mans music has gone down hill fast.

what’s interesting is that this happens after he breaks free from Perfecto and Oakenfold.

You are only as good as what you have forthcoming. The longer that forthcoming takes to occur, the more that any interest and demand in you burns completely out.

And for me, even at this point, although I would love to hear it, I couldn’t even care less about his collaboration with Rob Dickinson and I’d been after him for a decade to do that.

The star will implode upon itself due to severely poor career management and become a giant black hole, leaving behind a massive absence of what used to be and could have been. I hope he finds the happiness he and all deserve, because this is clearly not it.

TheFuzz - 14 April 2008 06:53 PM

due to severely poor career management

do we have any names of people responsible for that?  hating Oakenfold is getting kinda old, its been close to 10 years now since the split?  funny this got carried over to the other board and still going strong. haha where’s the progression.

maTo - 15 April 2008 05:10 AM

TheFuzz - 14 April 2008 06:53 PM

due to severely poor career management

do we have any names of people responsible for that?  hating Oakenfold is getting kinda old, its been close to 10 years now since the split?  funny this got carried over to the other board and still going strong. haha where’s the progression.

Yeah I have a name… Brian Wayne Transeau. He’s responsible for “that” and it has nothing to do with Paul. At least Paul is a smart business man. Brian has blamed every mistake and misfortune on everyone else. He’s taken responsibility for some things, but overall, all the decisions have been his and he doesn’t accept responsibility. I could get into details, but lets just say from his management to many artists he collaborated with to burning all bridges with NBC and the CW and pissing off Academy Award winning film producers, he’s dug his own grave when he should be at the top of the mountain. He was a pioneer and now look at him… dozens of artists have just flown right by him and left him in the dust. Again, I hope he finds whatever it is he is looking for to make him happy, because what he thought it was, was nothing more than the classic, Greek, false goal. Irony at its finest.

yeah, it seems in his quest to be well-known the entire music industry has passed him by.

raven848 - 15 April 2008 07:09 PM

yeah, it seems in his quest to be well-known the entire music industry has passed him by.

Some more irony…

Brian was the guy that told me BEFORE MYSPACE OR FRIENDSTER EXISTED that one day artists would directly connect with their fans and it would revolutionize the music industry. He said to me that it would be the future of music distribution. Comical now, considering I thought, “How the hell are they going to pull that off?”

so in a way, the blogging thing on myspace was part of his marketing strategy.  a way to keep the fan’s interest going since there is no new music released.

Suppose you could look at it like that, but the ‘Blogging’ thing wasn’t actually generating that much content as such anyway. In the last two years how many blogs have their been? 4? 6? If that. It’s very strange that it had all come down to this. I wonder if its more to do with personal things affecting the production of content, and not wanting to be in this market anymore. Problem for me is that now, its just dull… sorry to be so blatant but without content of any type what is the point of us waiting around? I look at other artists that I admire (creatives, not just music based) and they may not be generating content all the time but they are submerged in the creative market(s) and that alone is enough content until a proper ‘release’ or piece of work is released. They tell you that they are having time off, going back into the studio, have been working with ____, are inspired by______ at this time etc etc etc. We get nothing. Nada. It’s just all to much intrigue and whispers and over-hype. I don’t want a blog which delves into the emotiveness of separation and self justification and then nothing else. I for one don’t want the over cooking of minimal content and what at times sounds like self admiration of the grandest kind (whether it is or not it sure sounds like that at times). I want honest content. To be kept up to date with proceedings, whatever they are. Good and bad. Nothing personal, just creative. It’s been a long time, to long I feel. I hope that we get another BT album, as the man is a genius. Maybe he needs to find how to enjoy it all again and then when he’s ready can come back and inspire us with his sound. Who knows?

Well don’t forget your expectations rise. That’s got to be a shitload of pressure on someone like Brian, but I’m the last one to go easy on him. Most artists and creatives exceed under difficult times. It’s often when they churn out their greatest stuff. Brian’s in a pickle. He was that guy with ESCM, it’s obvious. But he’s always been a “pioneer” and always been “Elvis”. He knows no matter what he releases it will get ripped and ridiculed. I’m not defending him, I’m just saying since he didn’t keep up and churn out releases, he’s fucked. He’s already lost his hardcore fanbase who all know him (yeah you snotrags can take a hike), but he’s still out to be pure to his “vision” (too bad he’s fucked over more people I can name than most of you know). Unfortunately his vision and people who buy records don’t care if something is in key or time corrected (I listen to the radio). He can’t change music like he wants to. He waited too long. I told him after MISL (and he got pissed at me for this comment), but I said, “at this rate you’ll be dead like most artists before anyone cares”.

I’d say that its his own expectations and pressure he puts on himself which push him into a corner.  how many people actually care if a track is nano-corrected or if it has 20,000 edits?

TheFuzz - 21 April 2008 03:24 AM

Well don’t forget your expectations rise. That’s got to be a shitload of pressure on someone like Brian, but I’m the last one to go easy on him. Most artists and creatives exceed under difficult times. It’s often when they churn out their greatest stuff. Brian’s in a pickle. He was that guy with ESCM, it’s obvious. But he’s always been a “pioneer” and always been “Elvis”. He knows no matter what he releases it will get ripped and ridiculed. I’m not defending him, I’m just saying since he didn’t keep up and churn out releases, he’s fucked. He’s already lost his hardcore fanbase who all know him (yeah you snotrags can take a hike), but he’s still out to be pure to his “vision” (too bad he’s fucked over more people I can name than most of you know). Unfortunately his vision and people who buy records don’t care if something is in key or time corrected (I listen to the radio). He can’t change music like he wants to. He waited too long. I told him after MISL (and he got pissed at me for this comment), but I said, “at this rate you’ll be dead like most artists before anyone cares”.

He CAN change music.

He should fucking get a fucking cottage in the middle of nowhere, bring his computers / instruments or whatever and make music in every genre.  Make a fucking country music cd, a fucking blues cd..whatever.  If he really wants to follow through and not be full of shit, he should be a pioneer in music period.  Fuck the drama, fuck everyone else...just fucking do it.  Use his production techniques and knowledge and expand it to all genres of music.  I am not saying that he should “stutter” edit country music, but there has to be something that he can see amongst all the synthesis and produce something amazing.  I think he has the ability to do it, ffs look at IMA or ESCM.

Yeah, there won’t be screaming retards and or people wanking him off like a rockstar, but 25 years from now...he will be known as a music pioneer.  Personally I’d rather have people talking about me in 25 years from now doing something revolutionary than a bunch of wankers on a message board figuring out what color of underwear I am wearing.

notBoston

Class.... absolutely!

maTo - 21 April 2008 08:00 AM

I’d say that its his own expectations and pressure he puts on himself which push him into a corner.  how many people actually care if a track is nano-corrected or if it has 20,000 edits?

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notBostonBTFan - 21 April 2008 09:35 AM

but 25 years from now...he will be known as a music pioneer.  Personally I’d rather have people talking about me in 25 years from now doing something revolutionary than a bunch of wankers on a message board figuring out what color of underwear I am wearing.

notBoston

yup, in 25 years Bush will be celebrated for invading Iraq and BT for changing music.  every track will be nano-corrected and processed through a chip implanted in your head.